It’s Both — Navigating Life’s Gray Areas & Messy Moments
What do you do when both things are true? When the answer isn’t clear and feelings are mixed?
It’s Both is the podcast for people living in the tension—navigating life’s gray areas and messy moments. Hosted by therapist and storyteller Nikki P, each episode explores duality through authentic conversations and honest storytelling—real stories behind holding multiple truths: joy and grief, clarity and confusion, and freedom and fear.
You’ll hear raw conversations that normalize emotional complexity, offer self-compassion, and build emotional resilience—without toxic positivity. If you’re in the messy middle, deconstructing faith, rebuilding identity, or moving through transitions, this space helps you feel your feelings, embrace contradictions, and remember you’re not alone.
Because life isn’t either/or—it’s both.
Episodes

Tuesday May 06, 2025
Holding the Tension: Divorce, Identity & Parenting in the Gray
Tuesday May 06, 2025
Tuesday May 06, 2025
Have you ever felt joy and anxiety at the same time? In this opening episode of It’s Both, host Nikki P shares honest storytelling about family conflict, divorce, and the emotional weight of mental health and motherhood. She names the emotional complexity of becoming—where gratitude and grief, strength and tenderness, past and future all coexist.
Through authentic conversations (with herself!) Nikki practices both/and thinking—a framework for navigating life’s gray areas without toxic positivity. You’ll hear simple ways to feel your feelings, hold emotional tension, and build emotional resilience in real time: gentle check-ins, capacity-based boundaries, and permission to be a work in progress.
If you’re in the messy middle—parenting in the gray, rebuilding identity after loss, or just trying to do hard things—this episode offers language, validation, and companionship. Because healing isn’t linear, and your story doesn’t have to fit a neat box to be true.
Because life isn’t either/or—it’s both.
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Tuesday Apr 29, 2025
Coming Soon - It’s Both: A podcast about learning to hold multiple truths
Tuesday Apr 29, 2025
Tuesday Apr 29, 2025
Have you ever felt torn between joy and sorrow, success and failure, or love and loss? Life is a beautiful contradiction, and in this season of "It's Both," host Nikki P. takes you on an enlightening journey that dives deep into the complexities of life's contradictions through authentic storytelling. Nikki emphasizes the importance of acknowledging and embracing the multifaceted nature of human experiences, illustrating how we can hold conflicting emotions and truths simultaneously. This episode is a heartfelt invitation for listeners to explore the gray areas of life, where joy and pain coexist, and where our stories intertwine in unexpected ways. As Nikki guides you through real-life narratives, she encourages a shift away from binary thinking, advocating for a deeper understanding of our realities. The discussions revolve around the idea that life is not simply black and white but rather a rich tapestry of experiences that can be both challenging and beautiful. By sharing relatable stories, Nikki aims to foster healing and connection, reminding us that it is entirely possible to feel multiple emotions at once. Whether you’re grappling with personal challenges, navigating relationships, or simply seeking a more profound understanding of your own experiences, this episode of "It's Both" offers valuable insights that resonate on many levels. Through the lens of authentic storytelling, Nikki explores how we can embrace our contradictions and learn from them. She highlights the power of vulnerability and the strength that comes from sharing our truths. By doing so, she paves the way for a more inclusive conversation about the human experience, one that acknowledges the beauty in our struggles and the lessons learned along the way. Join Nikki as she unpacks the complexities of life, encouraging you to reflect on your own journey and find solace in the shared nature of our experiences. Don't miss this opportunity to engage with a community that values authenticity and real connection. Tune in to "It's Both" and discover how embracing the contradictions in your life can lead to greater understanding, acceptance, and ultimately, healing. Let’s celebrate the beauty of life's complexities together and learn how to navigate the intricate dance of emotions that shape our existence. Hosted by Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.