What does it mean to love someone who feels impossible to love—without losing yourself? In this episode of It’s Both, host Nikki P sits down with pastor and recovery leader Steve LeFebvre for authentic conversations and honest storytelling about the emotional complexity of hard relationships.
Steve shares how recovery reshaped his non-toxic faith journey, teaching practices that build emotional resilience while honoring boundaries and compassion. Together they explore both/and thinking in love: grief and growth, pain and transformation, accountability and grace. You’ll hear how to hold multiple truths in real time—staying grounded, practicing self-compassion, and choosing connection without abandoning your values.
If you’re healing from relationship wounds, navigating the messy middle, or redefining intimacy, this conversation offers language, tools, and companionship for navigating life’s gray areas—without toxic positivity.
You’ll hear:
- Why boundaries in relationships protect healing and trust
- How vulnerability and courage deepen intimacy
- Practical ways to hold emotional tension with grace and clarity
- What recovery teaches about forgiveness, repair, and repair attempts
Because life isn’t either/or—it’s both.
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